tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19158895.post2548786549210451663..comments2024-02-26T00:37:47.131-08:00Comments on Broomstick Chronicles: More on Pentacle Quest on West CoastBroomstick Chronicleshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11217890674112142957noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19158895.post-67564830853639146982007-05-09T04:33:00.000-07:002007-05-09T04:33:00.000-07:00Macha,The pics are up on the AUPagans site-I've ju...Macha,<BR/>The pics are up on the AUPagans site-I've just come from there.<BR/>Quite a lot of them, too!<BR/><BR/>Love,<BR/>Terri in JoburgAquila ka Hecatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00725237187718174157noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19158895.post-82763248734531478212007-05-08T10:41:00.000-07:002007-05-08T10:41:00.000-07:00Yikes! That *does* sound problematic, and I'm sure...Yikes! That *does* sound problematic, and I'm sure the families did not appreciate it, headstone or not.Hadarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02679534968114656918noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19158895.post-68163629032512647202007-05-08T10:23:00.000-07:002007-05-08T10:23:00.000-07:00Hadar, what was jarring was that he specifically s...Hadar, what was jarring was that he specifically said they had not died in vain *because they could now have a pentacle on their tombstone*. It wasn't even about the war.<BR/><BR/>I wrote about this in my blog.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19158895.post-13985088761946791282007-05-08T02:38:00.000-07:002007-05-08T02:38:00.000-07:00I absolutely agree. His words could be interpreted...I absolutely agree. His words could be interpreted as "the war is just", which understandably would infuriate those in the audience who are frustrated at the war, or as "their lives will continue to have meaning for us", which is of course better.<BR/><BR/>I have to say I was surprised by the number of libertarians posting things like "if he fought for my country, I don't care what he has on his headstone". The patriotism angle is, apparently, a great unifier; I can't judge from here how broad of a coalition that is, given that most of the Bay Area Pagans I know are against the war.Hadarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02679534968114656918noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19158895.post-84760407501354321102007-05-08T01:28:00.000-07:002007-05-08T01:28:00.000-07:00That's a no-brainer, Hadar. Of course we (using t...That's a no-brainer, Hadar. Of course we (using the term loosely and meaning myself) wouldn't be so crass as to use this to protest war. It was the comment that they didn't die in vain I was responding to. I found it jarring. I thought different wording would have been more accurate. Different wording might have avoided the dissonance that I and some others experienced.<BR/><BR/>Further, I would never have spoken of my discomfort there because I would not want to disrespect the solemnity of the occasion. But I believe we only learn and grow from reflecting on how things worked or didn't work for us, from respectfully giving and receiving honest feedback.Broomstick Chronicleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11217890674112142957noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19158895.post-83086666488130899842007-05-07T20:22:00.000-07:002007-05-07T20:22:00.000-07:00I see your point, Macha, but strategically, it wou...I see your point, Macha, but strategically, it would have been a very bad move to make this an anti-war protest. Reading of the pentacle quest, I found out that many libertarians - the "original" right-wingers - were supporting the Pagan cause BECAUSE of the patriotism angle. To make the memorial into an anti-war event would mean to alienate many who were supportive of your struggle and possibly the families, who don't need to be told their dear ones died in vain. Maybe some of them think so, but for the sake of others, this was not the time nor the place to make an Anti-Bush, Anti-war statement.Hadarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02679534968114656918noreply@blogger.com